The reports of user-disconnected TVs jumping on open wifis or Amazon sidewalk by themselves are not credible. All of the problems stem from connecting the TV so don't.

I would be surprised if a truly dumb TV would be as good quality as modern LGs etc for the price. Maybe I'm wrong. But please don't pay _more_ for a dumb TV.

OpenAI has too much money, a common post-growth-stage issue that leads to pursuing a million stupid things with no clear plan. Like running a bunch of agents for months without any idea how to keep track of progress.

Vietnam (and Ukraine) would like a word

In a US context, with none of these kinds of arrangements in force, I do not accept arguments against much anything restricting worker's rights to organize here as there is so little alternative and even after organizing, true collective bargaining can be thwarted almost indefinitely (look at Amazon warehouse union efforts for examples of post-formation stonewalling).

In the German case or wherever there is a seat at the table for unions, a discussion can indeed be had. Here, I have zero sympathy for management which holds all the cards most of the time. Wikipedia in particular engaged a notorious anti-labor lawfirm to help their noble effort so I do not trust them in any way.

These are examples of workers leveraging their collective strength to do something that putatively a majority of workers support (modulo corruption/bad leadership of course). Shall I now give you the endless scroll of management doing all of the above and worse? Yes, union workers have a modicum of power to impact company operation, but it's not built-in to the concept of collective bargaining and indeed your Google example "attempted" to do something; management can simply do it.

> it’s not a stretch to imagine a union attempting to change Wiki policy to achieve political goals. Wikipedia is a public good and I would highly oppose this.

Wikipedia is not a "public" good. There is no mechanism preventing Wales and co taking it whatever direction they want.

> Co-ops are a better model for workers who want to join a company where they have full democratic control.

Co-ops are indeed great, but Wikipedia is not offering to become a co-op. You are arguing for "designated powers and limits" on one side only. If you're "pro-union" you have to accept that this grants powers to the collective, and if you start putting brakes on it without doing the same for management, it's anti-union.

The issue of leadership corruption in unions is well-known and definitely does _not_ lead to the kind of PC tyranny you're worried about here.

To be clear, what I'm objecting to is the "harrrumph I'll support worker's unions IFF they hew exactly to my non-working-condition-oriented values and demands." How about just supporting the workers?

Huge settlement inbound. Lyrics reproduced on Google search, Musixmatch and elsewhere are licensed [1] so there's no "fair use" defense. (Would be interesting if Gemini ever gets caught up in this).

The more interesting question is if there will ever be a fair deal for creators with AI consuming their content. Anti-copyright AI maxis seem to anxiously await a future where nobody can make money off their original work, but for most people it's just a fairness issue that if somebody makes something people like, they should get paid for it at least for some period of time.

There's a price tag to be paid, the question is will the hyperscalers take on the problem and solve attribution and payment? Or will they just settle as the price of doing their dirty business of stealing human work?

1 - https://techcrunch.com/2019/06/18/google-will-start-attribut...

The agents displayed coordinated behavior, used known exploits on a single resource (Artifactory), and "won the game" by attacking huggingface.

How is this different than a poorly-designed competition where a red team gets to spend a few days with each other and decent LLMs, and because their boss is Sam Altman, basically face no consequences for cheating/b&e'ing into another entity?

I mean they were running 100s of agents with unlimited access to a Sol-level model trained with cyberattacks and coordination in mind and let it run for days. The cost of this stretches into the millions.

Seems like you could give a competent security firm the same task and achieve the result today for wayyyyy less money??

My point being, docs were already an unsolved problem in code. Of course LLMs dumping reams of docs is not good, but are we really sure it's worse than before? Undocumented code is bad, and mis-documented code is the worst.

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