[1]: https://support.torproject.org/#about_why-is-it-called-tor

That's amazing, I never bothered to take a look once I saw that page but I did just now, and you're right. Google reCAPTCHA skinned as Cloudflare, hysteric.

My woes with the site is that my connection to any of the clearnet domains seem to get black holed, or completely blocked by Cloudflare while using Tor. The onion site works fine for viewing, but to archive pages I need to complete the extremely difficult Cloudflare CAPTCHA.

My bad, you're right! That shows my bias when it comes to this topic, way too much FUD.

Use services that respect your freedom. Hacker News works just fine using Tor Browser. ;)

Did you forget to read the article? They make the point that this is not the case. Tor Browser can be used to access most of the web besides aggressively anti-privacy platforms like Meta.

If you choose to go on a "Dark Web Search Engine" and that's what you find, that's entirely your decision and not something you would stumble upon.

>but normal people aren't going to put up with that. Nobody wants to see that stuff.

They would never see that stuff by accident, as they never do right now.

>There are sites that I have been unable to get working

This happens, most of the time because of Cloudflare. A solution is to get a new Tor circuit 3-5 times, and then the page will load. If a site simply won't work, like Meta platforms I won't use them. Using alternative front-ends[1] makes most sites that usually wouldn't work, work as well.

>The Tor browser does help here, by not easily allowing obvious mistakes like using http.

This is false, HTTPS only is enabled by default in Tor Browser. It's common knowledge for everyone including users of Google Chrome and Firefox to not use HTTP sites.

[1]: https://github.com/mendel5/alternative-front-ends

No traffic is routed through your computer by using Tor, running a relay is a completely separate thing that can't be done by accident.

>Whonix consists of two VMs: the Whonix-Gateway and the Whonix-Workstation. The former runs Tor processes and acts as a gateway, while the latter runs user applications on a completely isolated network.

>only connections through Tor are permitted.

>DNS leaks are impossible.

>Malware with root privileges cannot discover the user's real IP address.

See also technical introduction: https://whonix.org/wiki/Dev/Technical_Introduction

[1]: https://whonix.org/wiki/Whonix_against_Real_Attacks

Whonix is a desktop operating system designed for advanced security and privacy. Whonix mitigates the threat of common attack vectors while maintaining usability. Online anonymity is realized via fail-safe, automatic, and desktop-wide use of the Tor network. A heavily reconfigured Debian base is run inside multiple virtual machines, providing a substantial layer of protection from malware and IP address leaks. Commonly used applications are pre-installed and safely pre-configured for immediate use. The user is not jeopardized by installing additional applications or personalizing the desktop. Whonix is under active development and is the only operating system designed to be run inside a VM and paired with Tor.

Comments URL: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36840843

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[1]: https://newpipe.net/ [2]: https://invidious.io/ [3]: https://ublockorigin.com/

4chan blocks both Tor and VPNs. It's a terrible place to leak things, but a hacker can most probably find innocuous IPs.

[1]: https://docs.invidious.io/instances/

Why do you get ads? I don't understand how there are people on Hacker News that don't use content blockers. Is is because of principle?

> Of the 153,369 webpages actioned during 2020, almost half (68,000 or 44%) were assessed as containing self-generated imagery.[1]

I suggest starting there rather than my encrypted communications with friends and family.

[1]: https://annualreport2020.iwf.org.uk/trends/international/sel...