<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Hacker News: tapanc</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=tapanc</link><description>Hacker News RSS</description><docs>https://hnrss.org/</docs><generator>hnrss v2.1.1</generator><lastBuildDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 10:10:38 +0000</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hnrss.org/user?id=tapanc" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"></atom:link><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by tapanc in "Cloud Agents Are Inevitable AI Prisons"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>Wasn't the public internet an extremely vile place couple of decades ago? I think we will need a LOT of new infrastructure akin to traditional firewalls and spam filters. I don't think we know how to build those today, but seems like an important research direction, rather than calling calling it doomsday IMO.</p>
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<p>> Even at the lower level of depending on everybody to use reliable jails is really fantasy if you exist in the security world. "We ain't securin' shit" would be a far better way to describe it. Even worse, most people will have the very same AI they are trying to trap set up their security! What could possibly go wrong.<p>Yes, exactly. This is what worries me about the whole we need better sandboxes and jails argument. Yes, we do need those, but we also gotta put some responsibility for self-preservation on people connecting things to the Internet as well. Like, we've always known that if you website is not secure, it will get hacked. Everyone just needs to do a lot more of that now...</p>
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<p>> I think this becomes the default. Give an agent a goal, let it work in its own environment, and come back to a result and a visualization of what happened.<p>I don't think this should be the default. There are many scenarios where we want agents to genuinely collaborate with each other. I have my Claude sessions coordinate work with each other, and sometimes with others' sessions over email or something. The idea that agents do the work, write HANDOFFs,and humans then act as carrier pigeons of said handoffs, does not really seem scalable to me.</p>
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<p>Author here, I am finishing up my PhD at UW, with Arvind Krishnamurthy and Ratul Mahajan.<p>Almost everyone we know is using AI agents. However, the future isn't just agents working for one user. It's agents interacting with each other across trust boundaries. Making these interactions efficient and secure requires solving hard problems, which turn out to be surprisingly similar to problems in human societies and in distributed systems and networking. This post is an early look at what’s coming, why it doesn't work yet, and what we are building to change that.<p>A few months ago, when OpenClaw came out, we were super curious to learn more about how people were using personal agents and it seemed that a lot of it was around communication management: managing calendars, drafting replies to emails, and so on. If soon everyone will have such an agent (and it seems like it), then these agents should be able to communicate autonomously without humans in the loop.<p>The whole thing seemed easy enough since agents are good at using messaging services, but we soon started observing that challenges arise higher up the stack. We went back into research mode and set up some experiments to learn what are the different ways that things could fail, and came out with some pretty interesting findings.<p>Today, our results indicate that agents are quite similar to humans, when it comes to the ways that they fail. They can lack social norms regarding what to talk about and when to talk about it, and are gullible and hence can be exploited by others. However, they are also similar to classical distributed systems when it comes to techniques that can be applied to solve them.<p>This is super early, and this post mainly focuses on the interesting failures we observed. The proposed architecture for a social harness (which will complement existing personal harnesses) is described in the paper [1] and we will discuss it more in subsequent posts here as well.<p>[1] <a href="https://arxiv.org/pdf/2609.17527" rel="nofollow">https://arxiv.org/pdf/2609.17527</a></p>
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<p>Article URL: <a href="https://social-harness.org/blog/agentic-societies-need-a-social-harness/">https://social-harness.org/blog/agentic-societies-need-a-social-harness/</a></p>
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