Some of us still enjoy toys and the shiny. Its not like we go out of our way to use this shit in production before its out of beta. We use it on pet projects in our own time because its fun, its thought provoking, it leads to new ways of doing things elsewhere, its learning - and thats why i love it, thats why i do what i do.

Edit, nothing like a whinge from jeff to get me riled and ranting to the point I just realised how pationate i am about learning and tech. Doubleplusgood day made.

As others have said been keen to do something very similar. Glad someone got off their ass and did it.

I always envisioned it useful at parties and places where the internet may be too congested but the lan/wlan not so much: read conferences

If the net wasnt neutral there would be no google we'd all be stuck using yahooor dogpile. The net and all its services would look a lot more like cable was begining to. I find it hard to take anyone seriously when they are defending companies that would have you pay in the blood of your first born if they could get away with it. You think the net would have gone mainstream? You think that facebook would exist? Amazon?

The world has changed with open unfiltered acess to the internet, anything trying to lock it down and monopolise the network transmissions at a base level is incredibly unethical and an attack on so many parts if your life now.

Its too much of a burden on carriers to be regulated like they should be? Fuck me man, its too much of a burden on the world at large not to.

The fcc needs to call them carriers, be done with it, fix the pricing, fix the dodgy dealing and if need be deregulate the issues that seem to be getting isps in such a huf.

Which is exactly the same with any population heat map when you go down to the census tract level in large cities.

In other words, it is completely applicable.

Source: random & recent google result titles

http://xkcd.com/1138/

As in, was this normalized, both for population density, and cost of living: read look at alaska..

In any case, can we stop using php4 in comparisons against frameworks still in their diapers.

The problem with that is not much unlike waterfall, it provides little to no transparencyfor the employing party, very little accountability and almost no meaningful measureability.

I dont know what your trying to add to this conversation but its not helping anyone that reads these forums.