You'll never agree but I think you underestimate how many people consider all that the AI companies have done to be the wealthy stealing and selling things back.

> nor are the people involved selling it back in any form

I am convinced that the longer one works in AI the less one has any grasp on reality

> too cheap to meter

Its the most expensive buildout in human history - you can't just split half the cost. The spending is the only significant growth in the US economy. Unless you think that all the datacenters and all that capex are for training?

Don’t sling when you need to craft, and don’t craft when you need to sling. Knowing the difference matters more, and you can spend your entire career on one side or another.

If they were the moral people they say they are, and believed what they say about it killing humanity they would stop unilaterally. These are the “rationalists” but they act like the fundamentalist church I grew up in. Every fact serves the same conclusion.

Streaming services already adding in ads to “ad-free” tiers they’ve now named “premium”.

Quality of life on the internet has gotten shitty while Reality Classic stays mostly the same, though more expensive.

My comment is more for the people in charge of or working on software teams on complicated products for customers - so many leaders quite a few engineers have utterly drank the koolaid and pushed maximizing AI use with zero regard for quality or even medium term effects. Many of them are getting promoted by other clueless management for it - when someone is handed a huge check for being optimistic, they tend not to second guess themselves.

Yes you can have your agents do refinement and refactoring. If you don’t know what they’re doing when they are doing that, they can and do introduce massive churn. The “build it fast and fix it later” crowd seemingly has never had to actually go try to fix it later, or dealt with production incidents when people have no idea how their code works. These folks are frequently promoted fast for their “productivity” and massive promises by clueless management and move on to let others have to clean up their stuff.

I sincerely don’t understand what the people who say they no longer read any code are doing, because it must be somewhat trivial to not run headlong into these issues that stack up time after time - then people say to just prompt better and it doesn’t have that problem for them, but I look at those same people’s code and it’s horrific, and then I find they haven’t made it far past a proof of concept phase. I watch entire teams slow down to a crawl and not be able to handle changes, or production incidents. This seems common among many people I talk to.

I personally think that the boosters need to put up or shut up - the promises are way over the skis. Every single person I’ve seen being a strong proponent of these techniques both has nearly unlimited tokens to spend and also seems to be in the business of selling a solution. I can’t find many not-currently-marketing-something engineers succeeding using these techniques in production systems unless they’re quite simple, or doing a very specific task from a more mature codebase.

So you’ve turned on several cities worth of power plants, with the water consumption to boot, not even to fucking mention carbon costs, for your closed loop system, that you can’t just drain you have to treat it and it still evaps and needs more.

From the same companies and people that brought you climate pledges, and being environmentally responsible.

This is apparently enough to hold up the broadly-accepted fiction that its possible to use these services while maintaining privacy and without risk. There's a huge industry of hosting services to handle the needs companies who compete with the primary cloud providers, who can't afford the IP and competitive risk.

OpenAI was caught directly stealing from apple, asking employees to bring in their laptops. Its a polite fiction that companies aren't trying to gain any advantage over the other. There's no effective consequence, and even if they get caught red handed they can litigate for decades.

You must gave no idea how susceptible agents are to marketing! I used agents in conjunction to my own research on a niche item lately and while it was helpful for showing some things I hadn’t considered it was dead wrong, frequently about a lot of stuff. But by all means, give up more control

Theres going to be a reckoning.

This question implies that the answer could be something other than the maximum amount of data collection and monetization of that data they can get away with.

If that statement gives you pause please spend even a short amount of time reading about ad networks, data brokers, and corporate surveillance.