I think you nailed it. People's behaviors are always adaptive to their environment.

Tipping point?

That said, a lot of people don't bond for the sake of bonding, but bond over a shared task (one that really needs doing, not an invented game that mimicks a task..)

But I've seen numerous examples, and in my own marriage we also had to figure this stuff out because as kids we had bought into a lot of (never quite spoken out loud but loudly hinted at) unhealthy messages...

You're pulling your reply straight from the offended-rack

Wife starts doing X. Boom, clarity lost.

I know, I know, shades of grey and all that. But on average, divide it clearly and you know who is responsible for what.

You did all of it, while your wife was sick. Kudos man, tough job done well.

My point wasn't about the heaviness of the task, or about how well each could do it, but about clarity and role division.

You could do it differently, but that only works if you swap one, not share half half.

Both have been eroded. Kids are raised by strangers, our food is crap, you can't warn each other about dangers cause that's somehow an insult and a single income doesn't pay the bills.

The goal seems to be to set men and women against each other.

No. If you think it's important, you pay for it.

(Edit: Word of warning though, my father was a bricklayer and he also screamed at his kids whenever he came home overworked. I'm not saying I know the answer here but every job has its "they don't pay me enough for this shit")

(Afterthought: Don't forget the time and cost of retraining. I don't doubt your statement that you'll make just as much but I doubt it'll be right off the bat)

I'm not sure if personal assistant or nurse are going to be AI-free. Plumber, welder, bricklayer, pest exterminator, sure. Don't underestimate the downsides of physical labor, though. Low pay and backbreaking.

What writing on the wall? If anything, I think you'll be more needed, not less, in times to come.

Hear hear. I'm at a local optimum where my bread tastes good, but it's a bit crumbly. When I change anything, it's nope nope backpedal. Trying to find the next step that'll improve my home baked bread

It's just a belief of mine and perhaps I'm wrong but I think in the long run things always even out again. If you can get an edge that everyone else can get, the edge pretty soon becomes a requirement

Interestingly he hired Rob Wilkins in the year 2000. So, did Rob's presence affect the books? Or did Terry hire Rob because he subconsciously knew he needed to compensate for a decline that started to become apparent, by offloading some tasks?

I've personally found that when the architecture of the system is not mature yet, unit tests can get in the way. Terribly so. Integration tests or system tests to assert behavior seem the starting point in this and other scenario's, including when there are no tests at all yet.

I've recently read a statement about letting go of a strict "unit test everything" mindset and go for integration tests instead. I'm thinking it probably depends, as with everything, on the type of system you're working on, the maturity of the system, the engineers' experience with automated testing, etc.

I'd be interested to learn when each type of testing helps you and when it gets in the way (and what it gets in the way of).

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