Proprietary technologies, poor or no documentation, silent deprecations and removals of APIs, slow trickle feed of yearly WWDC releases that enable just a bit more functionality, introducing newer more entrenched ways to do stuff but still never allowing the basics that every other developer platform has made possible on day 1.

A broken UI system that is confusing and quickly becomes undebuggable once you do anything complex. Replaces Autolayout but over a decade of apps have to transition over. Combine framework? Is it dead? Is it alive? Networking APIs that require the use of a 3rd party library because the native APIs don’t even handle the basics easily. Core data a complete mess of a local storage system, still not thread safe. Xcode. The only IDE forced on you by Apple while possibly being the worst rated app on the store. Every update is a nearly 1 hour process of unxipping (yes, .xip) that needs verification and if you skip it, you could potentially have bad actors code inject into your application from within a bad copy of Xcode unbeknownst to you. And it crashes all the time. Swift? Ha. Unused everywhere else but Apple platforms. Swift on server is dead. IBM pulled out over 5 years ago and no one wants to use Swift anywhere but Apple because it’s required.

The list goes on. Yet, Apple developers love to be abused by corporate. Ever talk to DTS or their 1-1 WWDC sessions? It’s some of the most condescending, out of touch experience. “You have to use our API this way, and there’s this trick of setting it to this but then change to that and it’ll work. Undocumented but now you know!”

Just leave the platform and make it work cross platform. That’s the only way Apple will ever learn that people don’t want to put up with their nonsense.

Would be a beautiful thing to see. Not sure how storage would work though since you cannot take payment (that would make it centralized), and storage would have to be distributed, but by who?

There's still zero evidence that WFH reduces productivity or that RTO increases productivity.

The internal air handler unit looks exactly the same as any other manufacturer. It's still ugly, and it still sticks out and doesn't integrate as nicely as ducted HVAC systems. Wouldn't homes just benefit more from replacing their existing furnace+AC systems with a heat pump if it's necessary, rather than installing mini splits in each zone and running refrigerant pipes all over the outside of the housing structure.

Also how is this related to depression, you said “this is the same problem” after you mentioned depression.

More than likely, their CRM software automatically tied their user-facing account with their support ticket email. Especially if the only unique identifier is based on email address. It's not hard to remove the name and location from the CRM, but because it would become a manual process they just don't want to have to deal with it.

FWIW, this theory could be put to test by signing up an account with username.extrachars@gmail.com and then sending a support email from username.extrachars+1@gmail.com, not sure if they would reject the support ticket as "emails not matched".

irq: Agreed. It's just a roundabout way of saying they want everyone physically at work. Given that they're based in SF, and the real estate/rent is high and the need for a small group to boost downtown revenue, of course the investors will push for that since it benefits that group. Not having a clear remote only position for a 100% software company post pandemic is just not going to work for me, and there's no evidence that physically being together has any productivity gains.

I would advise Oxide that if SteveKlabnik is not in the PR field with experience in handling HR style topics such as this thread, then to have Steve refrain from doing so, because this isn't helping the community perception of Oxide. You're getting destroyed in the comments.

https://steveklabnik.com/writing/today-is-my-first-day-at-ox... ("Steve Klabnik is the Community Team Leader for the Rust team at Mozilla")

2. Publishing the exact hiring process is a refreshing and welcome step in the industry where interviews are a black box. I also welcome the work that's been done to reduce as much bias as possible. However, this all begs the question: Do we really need this much evaluation in trying to hire an employee? I believe the pandemic and WFH has shown that people want to prioritize their personal and family lives more than "giving it all" to the workplace. The sense I get from reading the Oxide hiring process is one where you truly have to believe and be in love with the Oxide culture. Why? Why can't we just treat work as a means to an end, and that you can still good quality work with that style of thinking? It does not have to be an either/or, but the hiring process document makes it seem like it's "you either fit into our style and values, or you don't". Why the gatekeeping?

2a. The amount of hoops software engineering folks have to go through to land a job is just mostly made up stuff, based on no studies or research on workforce hiring, and at a startup, HR is just really payroll, with no formal processes on handling grievances, human process, etc.

2b. Having said 2 and 2a. Why do we, as an industry seem to mired in spending so much effort on weeding people out? What are we scared of? All of us have worked with people we don't like, or that we feel were not good enough (caliber, skillset, professionalism, etc.), but this and other process isn't helping. What if we changed our mindset to actually trusting and believing in people to do the best they can rather than send them so much homework, have them sit through panel interviews and then conclude with "hire, do not hire" and then provide the candidate absolutely no feedback on what went wrong. Why can't we seem to disrupt this. It's tiring, and it shows in this thread that people are quite honestly sick of it.

3. Personally, when I attend future interviews, I want to have a hard boundary for the type of questions that get asked. If I get thrown a "reverse this integer" style question or "lets do TDD on the white board", I think as a collective we need to walk out or stop the interviewer and put them on the spot and go "You really want to waste an hour of my time asking basic questions like this? Don't you want to know how to solve real problems that you're currently facing or are you not facing any challenging problems so you want play with puzzles and waste my time?" I would bet if the masses resisted and took this course, interviews would change drastically and quickly.

EDIT: @Oxide, bcantrill isn't helping in the comment section either. This isn't going well for you and I strongly advise you to hire HR or PR to handle commentary and writing about these things rather than engineers/founders.

Their blog posts are also posted multiple times on Hacker News by different identities.

https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=nnethercote.github.io

Seems odd that this wouldn’t go into an official Rust blog when you’re a member of the team and instead published on your personal domain and blog.

Asking to debate these things is unproductive and doesn't serve any other purpose than a dishonest discussion of ideas and topics that have already been concluded as problematic.

That's how it gets decided. We decided as a collective that murder, rape, abortion, climate change, evolution, gender pronouns, and all the other stuff was the right direction. It's about as ridiculous as wanting to debate that 2+2 = 4.

Down in the comments, sounds like MA has good incentives, but not seeing other states. CA is banning new gas installations, so I assume heat pumps are the only way for new developments

I’m still confused about why a heat pump is so much more efficient, since the only change from a typical AC and compressor setup is the two-way valve that allows the system to reverse and a different refrigerant. Would it still not use the same power hungry compressors as before? I always thought the most expensive part of running an AC was the compressor.

In terms of Gas, does it actually run cheaper than the per-therm Gas costs?

Non profits (WMF) grant money to programs that directly or indirectly affect the content of all products offered by the WMF. It’s not just Wikipedia. There are grants that goto volunteers to increase editorship/authorship of non English Wikipedia or in countries and culture where Wikipedia does not have as many articles.

Calling this culture wars and simply saying “the money doesn’t goto hosting” is low complexity thinking that fails to account for all the things the foundation does.

Outside of LA and the NY metro area, diversity drops drastically. So while there maybe a growth in research parks/tax advantaged zones to attract satellite offices and software startups, HQ’s are still going to be based where the diverse talent lives.

The second point is Americans simply are not pursuing the highest levels of education. Masters and PhD programs are filled with immigrants, and new departments are frequently established by hiring such highly educated people. And it turns out, it’s safer and more enjoyable for immigrants to live where they’re accepted and already have communities.

One can hope that America becoming more diverse in the future will cause other more diverse areas to be established, but that depends on the politics of the area. Educated people tend to not associate with right wing/republican policies, and these areas will have to embrace that and not just devolve to gerrymandering. And that means your neighbors and communities also have to embrace diversity.