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New comment by throwaway201103 in "Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler"

throwaway201103 — Sun, 10 Jan 2021 07:47:58 +0000

Who is the "we" that is giving him more powers? Trump is viscerally hated by the Speaker (2nd in line) and most of the House (they already impeached him once) and a significant portion of the Senate. No way he's getting any emergency powers, if the Constitution would even allow it.

New comment by throwaway201103 in "Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler"

throwaway201103 — Sun, 10 Jan 2021 07:20:02 +0000

All the people who voted for Trump and who think the vote was rigged feel unheard.

Dr. King was quite perceptive.

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throwaway201103 — Sun, 10 Jan 2021 07:15:15 +0000

He says things that resonate with their beliefs. America is great, America is good in the world, a strong America is a good thing, get out of foreign wars, get out of bad trade deals, bring back jobs, cut taxes. He did a lot of these things. He was completely unlike any other politician. He didn't try to waffle on both sides of every issue. He spoke his mind, in a brash, rude, blue-collar New York kind of way. He called people names. I never heard real hate in the things he said, though if you wanted to hear it, I'm sure you did.

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throwaway201103 — Sun, 10 Jan 2021 07:04:36 +0000

And he'd have had zero supporters at that point. He'd already lost the VP, who refused his request to reject the votes. Absolutely nobody would have stood with him on extending his term as a result of a violent interruption of this ceremony in the Congress.

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throwaway201103 — Sun, 10 Jan 2021 06:54:36 +0000

I don't think anyone (certainly not me) is denying some intent of at least a core of instigators to create a disruption, at minimum. They should be identified, charged with their crimes, and stand trial.

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throwaway201103 — Sun, 10 Jan 2021 06:43:45 +0000

Because in trying to imagine the worst possible outcome, I still see no way Joe Biden is not sworn in on January 20. I grant you some of the people there may have been under delusions that they could stop it, but it wasn't going to happen. I mean god forbid they killed the VP or the Speaker. The rest of the Congress, the military, the states, are all going stand aside and say "OK well, nothing we can do now, it's President Trump for life!"

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throwaway201103 — Sun, 10 Jan 2021 06:27:43 +0000

It would be a big problem, but I don't think so. It wasn't in the realm of possibility on January 6, but for sake of argument.... Say the entire Sentate and House is wiped out somehow. They are not essential for day to day governance. State Governors would make emergency appointments to replace them as a first response. It would be hugely disruptive and chaotic, but I think the republic would survive. The republic is the states. The people in Washington are just the representatives.

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throwaway201103 — Sun, 10 Jan 2021 06:04:19 +0000

Because if there was one thing it wasn't, it wasn't an "existential threat to the republic." Hyperbole like this make it hard to talk about the rest of it reasonably. It was a protest gone off the rails, with a few bad actors, and an embarrasing lack of preparedness by the Capitol Police on that day of all days, given what has been going on all year.

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throwaway201103 — Sun, 10 Jan 2021 05:42:39 +0000

After a summer of riots, looting, and violence all across the country, fueled by calls to violence on Twitter and Facebook

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throwaway201103 — Sun, 10 Jan 2021 05:36:06 +0000

So the baker can refuse to bake cakes for Democrats?

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throwaway201103 — Sun, 10 Jan 2021 05:31:03 +0000

(I can't see the flagged post that's at the top of this subthread so if this is a bit out of context that is why)

If the baker thinks it's a message of sin, then what? It's not like selling them a room at a hotel or any other standard thing. This is a custom crafted item and message that they are being asked to help propagate, and one that they disagree with.

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throwaway201103 — Sun, 10 Jan 2021 05:19:27 +0000

No, I mean AWS can choose to not host Parler, so why can't a baker choose to not make a gay wedding cake?

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throwaway201103 — Sun, 10 Jan 2021 05:15:27 +0000

You can also choose your baker, so find one who thinks like you do.

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throwaway201103 — Sun, 10 Jan 2021 05:12:38 +0000

In both cases it's a matter of being able to choose whether to participate in a message you don't agree with.

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throwaway201103 — Sun, 10 Jan 2021 05:03:15 +0000

The various "big provider X boots conservative platform/person Y" are all popping on and off the front page fairly quickly. The comments are mostly what you would predict.

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throwaway201103 — Sun, 10 Jan 2021 04:27:21 +0000

"use force to overthrow the election"

Which politicians said that?

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throwaway201103 — Sun, 10 Jan 2021 04:09:55 +0000

Hilarious how historic government symbols and tradition are suddenly cool again, after a summer of statues, monuments, and buildings being vandalized and toppled.

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throwaway201103 — Sun, 10 Jan 2021 04:05:24 +0000

Is the guy in custody? Who is he? What's his background?

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throwaway201103 — Sun, 10 Jan 2021 03:53:43 +0000

Likely as not an effigy symbol. Mike Pence was never going to be hanged on the Capitol steps. The guy has Secret Service on him 24x7

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throwaway201103 — Sun, 10 Jan 2021 03:48:56 +0000

Maybe it's better that the discussions are happening where they can be seen? The other half of the problem on Wednesday was how unprepared and weakly defended the Capitol was, in light of all this planning was going on on Parler.

If it had been happening on GPG-encrypted email, would that be better?