well done

Actual consumers not only don't care, they will not even be aware of the difference.

Just put it online. Maybe use an escrow service. What's stopping you?

Desperately trying to change the subject is not an argumentation tactic. It's at best, stalling. At worst, trolling.

Yes and all he had to gain was international celebrity.

Please understand the role that ego plays in actions such as this.

> And here we are. The siren song of the left.

There's something particular sad about people that won't even admit to what they are in public. You know your right wing brand is toxic but you don't want to just be another cult member, so you pretend to be something else so your words will have more (or some) weight.

It's not working.

Have fun being the reason why the rest of your family hates Thanksgiving for the 10th year in a row.

People go to prison for attempted murder every day.

Overstaying your visa is a civil offense. Kidnapping and assaulting people who haven't even committed a misdemeanor is illegal and unconstitutional.

> Protesters try to interfere ICE targeting illegal aliens

Well in that case you could declare all protests as "interfering with police operations" thereby making illegal all protests and ohhhhh ok I get it.

You're not a "both sides" guy. You actively support this admin attacking the constitution and you're trying to make it look better by creating false equivalences instead of just owning what you support.

I'd have at least a little respect for you if you just owned it.

We're done here.

> Allow me a quick rewrite of your breathless response in a more reasonable language.

The fact that you won't just reply point by point and want to spin up a self-important narrative tells me everything I need to know about this interaction.

> Was he targeted? Was he targeted willfully? Was he target ted willfully, while administration knew he was an American citizen? When did they know it? Did they stop their plans once they did?

I was pointing out how Trump is targeting and killing US citizens in America for peacefully protesting and your "both both sides do it!" attempt was a U.S. citizen literally fighting against the U.S. in a warzone.

>If so, ICE shooting a mother of two ( who was clearly not watching those two kids m ind you ) is just an expansion of powers Obama gave himself. Thanks Obama!

ICE had a specific mandate under Obama (and every other President) to go after only criminals. Trump perverted this mandate to form a militarized police force to attack democratic cities, killing protesters with no accountability.

We get it. You are above all this. You are too smart to think that either party is better than the other.

We get it. You can stop now.

This was in a literal war zone against a man who literally declared war on the United States.

> Signed 2012 NDAA with 'indefinite detention' provisions

Didn't answer my question. This law targeted terrorists, not mothers of two, driving home from dropping their kids off at school.

> Extended Patriot ACT in 2011 - Re-authorized FISA in 2012

Didn't answer my question.

> Defended post-Snowden NSA metadata collection

Didn't answer my question.

> Seized reporter's property in leak investigation

This appears to be an actual leak investigation done by the DOJ. I don't recall these journalists being arrested, denied a lawyer, etc. I can't find any evidence that this was a legitimate leak investigation done in accordance with the law.

> 'fast and furious'

Reminder, we are talking about domestic surveillance and illegal detainment for political purposes.

Donald Trump has over 6,000 habeas corpus violations working their way through the court system in America right now. Obama had < 10 in 8 years. He is detaining U.S. citizens without cause, without explanation, and subjecting them to torturous conditions.

Your attempt to say both sides are the same is clearly an attempt to sound intelligent like you're above the discourse. You're not.

How does stealings sensitive materials not related to domestic surveillance improve his odds of successfully leaking information and fleeing the country?

And please be specific.

> This was of course not known at the time. The only thing that was known is that a single individual was responsible for the greatest breach of classified secrets in the nation's history, and that individual was still at large.