https://opensource.com/article/17/11/open-source-or-free-sof...

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point....

Thanks for the explanation. I'll have to find a more accurate term for what I was trying to articulate, once I've dug into things more.

OSI vs FSF has nothing to do with the point at hand.

The BSD license permits making proprietary forks. The GPL does not. Those are examples of the distinction between "open source" and "free software."

> people who got in FOSS as a religion

Oh no! Not religion!

This is a ad-hominem argument based on anti-religious bigotry.

> don't really understand the licensing.

Again ad-hominem.

Quoth Wikipedia [1]

> Free software, libre software, libreware sometimes known as freedom-respecting software is computer software distributed under open-source licenses that allow users to run the software for any purpose as well as to study, change, and distribute it and any adapted versions.

> [...] Computer programs are deemed "free" if they give end-users (not just the developer) ultimate control over the software and, subsequently, over their devices.

> The right to study and modify a computer program entails that the source code—the preferred format for making changes—be made available to users of that program.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software

The requirement that those distributing the software give to their users the same rights given to themselves is the defining distinction between open source & free software.

Nothing at all. This is not stealing. The term is "forking." It's how GCC got un-stagnated (see egcs), and how we got the ecosystem of alternate wifi firmware (two examples that come readily to mind.)

This is also where Free and Open source diverge: Open Source lets someone block others from forking their fork, whereas Free Software requires that forks remain free to be forked themselves.

If your package is FOSS, having the distros ship it is arguably the easiest approach.

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There is not only one alternative.

When presented with two impossible (per your telling) options for landing, you choose option C: don't.

Your assertion here is irrelevant to the poster's point.

You're focused on the "happy path:" everyone has perfect information and judges correctly. If the submitter used AI, they say so and the commenters on the PR agree. If the submitter did not use AI, they don't say they used AI, and the commenters on the PR agree. This is the diagonal elements on the "used AI" confusion matrix.

The commenter is pointing out that information and judgment are not perfect and they're concerned about the off-diagonal elements of the confusion matrix. Especially the "Didn't use AI, but some commenters believe that they did" element.

If you buy physical media, you should rip it to FLAC and put the original disc in a safe place.

The Linux approach has the downside of not having the drivers if a vendor has not been working with the kernel community before launch (or for those who haven't upgraded to a kernel that has the driver, e.g. a LTS release).

On the other hand, the driver is maintained by kernel developers, not created by the hardware developer who is not getting paid after they sell the device. This helps avoid abandoned / vulnerable drivers, or having the hardware dev search for... alternative revenue streams, as in this case.

I said "for Linux" for a reason

On the other hand, you're arguing that the majority didn't buy it again. I've not seen any proof one way or the other. Do you have some?

When folks ask "Why doesn't Linux have a stable binary DDK API" this is one of the inevitable downsides of having it.

This is directly contradicted by the existence of Netbook fans.

Amazing how many of Microsoft's competitors don't need the help, yet receive it.

> Nobody bought more than one of them, the experience was that bad.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/netbook-sales-exploded-i...

"The market for small and cheap laptops -- netbooks -- boomed in 2008, with almost 15 million of the things sold globally."

On the contrary, they were incredibly popular.

Being cheap, commonly available, and shipping with Linux come readily to mind.