it's primarily a windows program and they can't even make a proper windows gui but embed a website, so clicking on anything is like a link instead of focusing into it. for instance if you middle click someone's name it opens it in a browser. fuck off. pressing alt+f4 closes discord instead of sending it to the tray (despite being a tray program). it's always updating something and then it just says "logging in" instead of saying what it's doing. it gets stuck indefinitely if you log in on a slow connection or you unplug lan while it's logging in or doing whatever it's doing at any given moment. absolutely the most frustrating crap to use. it has a billion options for stupid "hardcore" gamers (i am, too, but i don't need it) with special needs while not being a basic quality application that conforms to any UI standard.

they openly spy on you, not even trying to hide it.

instead of real software, it's a stupid fucking social media "community", so you can't just use it as a MECHANISM NOT POLICY program, instead every time you do something like log into a different account you have to check whether this is morally correct or will somehow harm their "community". like say i want to work on my blockchain, who are dumb enough to use discord as their main communication platform. i obviously then would want one account for that, then another - completely separate (but perhaps with the same phone number to make it logistically easier which SHOULDNT EVEN BE A THING, this is the internet) - account for playing games (often during work), i can't just log into these simultaneously, i have to go check what their policy is on that. literally, my first thought is that like typical incompetent american software devs, they will think i'm trying to scam people or some other kind of "abuse". and of course, they appear to have conceded to partially implement this "feature" (by undoing their nonsense about forensically attempting to forbid this)

it literally isn't. porn is mostly people having normal sex or just nude images of a woman. the existence of fringe fetish stuff doesn't affect that in any practical way. but your confusion seems to be thinking this discussion was about feminism or something when it's really just a decrepit boomer who is against sex being even legal lying through his teeth to justify completely pointless and harmful legislation (see 2 posts up)

> no recording in public

this is the only one that sounds like good common sense but isn't even regulation it's just law any sort of legal system would enforce.

all these "safety" things means ai offerings are all useless like google after 2003 when anything you query like "list of fad diet" is transformed into instead of an answer to that "problematic" question, an answer to "NVM LOL HERE IS A LIST OF HEALTHY DIETS"

> can't train on copyright material

that's so dumb. this world has no interesting copyright content coming out for 2 decades, it's literally all sellouts. losing to AI (which will happen regardless of whether the training material contains any copyright content) is exactly what they deserve. don't forget that these are also people who sue random civilians for "damages" that only exit in their head. sellout culture no longer even applies to musicians and book authors, it's also the majority of software too, with people just creating software for part of their resume, or some crowdsource shit, or a blog. any software anyone makes in a corporation is just to host an ad or be a dev tool for people who just host an ad

Speaking of snakeoil

1. Bank etc will not allow special characters, because that's a "hacking attempt". So Firefox's password generator, for example, won't work. The user works around this by typing in suckmyDICK123!! and his password still never gets hacked because there usually isn't enough bruteforce throughput even with 1000 proxies or you'll just get your account locked forever once someone attempts to log into it 5 times and those 1000 IPs only get between 0.5-3 tries each with today's snakeoil appliances on the network. There's also the fact that most people already know that "bots will try your passwords at superhuman rate" by now. Then there's also the fact that not even one of these password policies stops users from choosing bad passwords. This is simply a case of "responsible" people trying and wasting tons of times to solve reality. These people who claim to know better than you have not even thought this out and have definitely not thought about much at all.

2. For everything that isn't your one or two sensitive things, like the bank, you want to use the same password. For example the 80 games you played for one minute that obnoxiously require making an account (for the bullshit non-game aspects of the game such as in game trading items). Most have custom GUIs too and you can't paste into them. You could use a password manager for these but why bother. You just use the same pass for all of them.

which ones? which ones didn't? just 2 days ago i heard PFAS is still in the rumor stage.

> Water providers are entering a new era with significant additional health standards that the EPA says will make tap water safer

i thought you already said it's safe?

i have plenty of health issues caused by just about everything, everything has 10 billion perfumes for no reason, and new kinds of experimental plastics in every single possible thing you can buy, that smell terrible and unsurprisingly make you feel awful, just walking in a city and coming in fills my face with irritants and can ruin my day. this is a small difference in comparison. i doubt the PFAS thing is any more than a typical fad and way for gov to make money as usual. nobody actually cares about this stuff, they just pretend.

windows 9x was probably the last time any user interface tried to be this efficient, now it's just click the arrow and it will make sure to slide the next photo in very slowly in case you forgot that you're waiting for the next photo to appear

and i bet FCC spent 100 million dollars making this

and can you even access these food labels before entering your address? (and why is it not mandated that they provide a list of zones and prices per zone?)

a number like "total latency" is just complete nonsense, as its not a real metric that can fit in one number, and the kind of number marketers love to abuse.

and nothing about what kind of modem the ISP is compatible with. is it cable, adsl, fiber?

wifi extender and battery backup? because someone in FCC needed to work his full shift so he added those during his time? i'm not going to compare isps based on what random bullshit they bundle in, i only care about the actual service. anything more than 3 variables is too much. modem rental is important since they fucked up the chance of having open standards so hard that most people practically have to rent a modem. i guess FCC can't be blamed, they aren't techies or whatever.

this is not the average social media user. the problem is addiction, not doing surgery to yourself. if social media was banned or age gated you would have to ban wikipedia next as its also very easy to get addicted to doing a tree traversal of interesting articles starting at the single one article you intended to read. also stack exchange. pardon my tone deafness to your tragedy, but this is a political issue, and your post is being used for political purposes. this is also a waste of my tax money and proof that taxation is theft. if i was a parent i would just be a good parent like my parents and slap my kids if they get addicted to upvoting shit on social media just as i would slap them if they get addicted to watching tv, playing arcade games (since i would provide them with real games and not gacha shit, the former which still had the addiction problem and the exact same dumb discussions in the 90s)

your argument is dumb too, it doesn't even deserve acknowledgment, but we are little babies here and have to politely explain to everyone why they're wrong, to the point that the insane people just always win and get their dumb ideas into law because nobody cares anymore and are tired of explaining common sense over and over. having safety controls on hardware is not anything remotely equivalent to the hypothetical problem the article pitches. there is not any world where regulating social media makes sense, and i say this as someone who has never used social media in my life. the entire issue at hand here is like a bear shitting in the woods and someone happens to step on it once in a thousand years, almost none of these so called people who get addicted to social media would have any better off chance at life without it, they would just get addicted to one of the millions of other things one can get addicted to. the remaining one in a million people who actually had their life ruined by social media is like the bear shitting in the woods, its just life.

except it is, because law is dumb, stupid, and slow-witted. if you ban facebook specifically, the next day it will think that means mailing lists should also be banned. btw ive witnessed lots of mailing list and then web forum addicted deadbeats before social media came out but whatever

the legal solution is nothing (i realize not all of you have asked for the legal solution yet but thats essentially the only point of this thread that is brought up routinely on places like HN)

teh fact that every techie and his mom seems to think the law will work out in his favor when it backfires each time (or they just ignores that downsides) is no different than how people keep thinking you can put a web server in every embedded device and they oh so surprisingly have the same RCE vulns as the 90s, every single time.

yes, yes, and porn is also a health epidemic, and so was covid (yes it was, only technically). so what? until you roll out new laws in reaction to this "problem", it doesn't exist as far as i'm concerned. i don't care that you have a large body of proof for it, i don't have time to read that. and when you make the laws they will be bullshit and not even solve the problem which may or may not exist. you are all redditors.