> The circles were in different positions at each room in the maze, but the bees still learned over varying amounts of time to fly toward the short flash of light associated with the sweet food.

Do not state, if the light suddenly changed in the rooms. If not, other factors might come into place.

We have to be cautious here, it's drifting towards conspiracy theories, my post is not innocent in this regard. But apart from that, I have to agree with you.

> In many areas, I don't fully understand. I use a simple trick that worked well: [phrase-redacted]. Intellectually honest people who aren't trying to trick anyone speak the truth. They also speak it with simple words so there's no possibility of misinterpretation.

So not taking a look at the chain of thoughs but treating each sentence differently, makes sense.

> This might be the most effective trick. Many times I caught people say something which is their opinion, and which is false based on data I have, that is actually an attempt to express a fact they know in a way that will make them seem more important, or give them more attention, or I don't know what.

Seems like philosophical razor

>On the other hand, a social credit system may be a distraction from an actual credit system already in place: a money system.

That is very true.

>I try to understand what is actually being stated instead of what is implied; facts vs opinion That requires that you understand fully to implication, how do you do this in areas that you don't have strong background knowledge?

>I wouldn't be surprised if falsity starts to get penalized. Elon said Grok will start to rank content based on whether its true. That would be a great step.

> Also built a system that prevents posting things that are made up. Maybe posting lies should carry a penalty, where you deposit something to lose if you told a lie. We must be careful here that a social credit system is not created through the back door.

How can I be sure that things haven't been made up? The only thing left to do is consult books from before the AI boom. How do you do it?

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For many generations, knowledge has been a tool to ensure that humankind is able to produce a value of its own. This power is on the edge of shifting towards a few companies that rely on its value closed-source. Leaving the integrity of knowledge solely in their hands. Scientia potentia est has become more distinct and clearer, being centric around a few.

> Phase 1 - Mining The real value is not here yet. The costs are immersive, and cloning every source of data is pain. How good that there are open source projects, that provide the data for free (https://index.commoncrawl.org/) a few Petabytes should be a good starting point.

> Phase 2 - Creating dependency, for less than the value Let’s start with a business 101 here, Predator pricing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predatory_pricing) should be a good starting point. We are lazy, as we just collected 6.4 PB of data we just leave the rest of the collection to the users that pay that we can use their data (https://help.openai.com/en/articles/5722486-how-your-data-is-used-to-improve-model-performance), how good is that!

> Phase 3 - Bleeding out competition Oh, shit! The most people feed their problems into our model, leaving other open source, and open knowledge transfer (https://blog.pragmaticengineer.com/stack-overflow-is-almost-dead/). They ignore them and let them die because the lack of traffic means that advertising, for example, is no longer financed, causing competitors to go bankrupt sooner or later. The internet is dying as a result, and it's not worth publishing anything because it will just be mined and fall victim to the big copycats. How cool that you're doing their work for them!

> Phase 4 - Profit Knowledge is now centralised; people are bred to be accustomed to simply throwing a prompt somewhere and getting an answer for all their activities anyway. They obey like zombies, and no matter what comes out of the prompt machine, they will believe it because they are losing their minds bit by bit. It may not work so quickly, but if everyone keeps telling you lies, you will lose your mind and eventually believe the lies yourself (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asch_conformity_experiments). No matter who is behind the prompt machine, they will now be able to control you.

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When I think about how I joined back then, without a smartphone or the internet, it was mostly by coincidence—running into someone at school or in the neighborhood who was already active in a club. The schedules were always strictly fixed, so there was no need for organization via group chats or social media.

One thing that stands out to me is the importance of volunteerism. In Germany, the majority of civil protection services, including the fire department and disaster relief, are managed by volunteers. Professional firefighters are actually a minority. I joined the youth fire department at a young age, and I stayed because it was simply what we always did. We regularly organized big festivals, and many people attended. These events were a great way to get people excited about what we were doing, and often, they would say, “Hey, I want to do this too!”

I'll check out the movie, and I’ll also read Bowling Alone, which is mentioned in this context. It all sounds like structural problems that we also face in Germany. Civil protection services are increasingly struggling with a lack of new recruits, which aligns with the themes of the movie. People often say they don’t want to commit too strongly to one thing anymore.