Comments URL: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49341212

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Literally my first thought after reading this training log excerpt:

> 10/4/2012: I’m really trying to be conscious right now about losing some worthless snack weight… Need to be more diligent, take action, get fucking after it, and restore the body and the mind!

"worthless snack weight" sounds very similar to epithets that anorexic people often use.

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I'm pretty sure that it can be fixed by either manual testing and giving the agent feedback or by giving the engine tools to do the testing. Vibecoders just tend to be very careless about such things.

Maybe anti-doping rules enforcement became stricter?

In humans, enlargement of internal organs (including heart) is know to be a side effect of using growth hormone as a PED. Wiki says [0] that "Extracted growth hormone was used since the late 1950s", so in 1973 it was already a well known technology.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_hormone_therapy#Extract...

So, if "digging around" means looking at folders' structure, you can do it through SFTP without copying everything (unlike scp or rsync).

And if digging around means running commands, nothing prevents you from having a session for running commands open in parallel.

Maybe they could, but I would be the first to oppose introducing creative ways to do logging or string formatting.

Such basic things should be done in the most standard way possible to reduce cognitive effort required to read and understand the code.

But the standard way is kinda ugly. Most people would expect f-strings to be used for "normal" string formatting and %-style to be used for logging, because it is the default and most codebases do it this way. Therefore, you basically forced to have (at least) two different formatting syntaxes in your codebase.

I say "at least", because if the program serves html pages, you most likely also have some other template engine like jinja...

Most IDEs support editing files on a remote machine through SFTP.

1. %-formatting [1]

2. str.format [2]

3. string.Template [3]

4. f-string [4]

5. t-string [5]

What happened to "one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it"? [6]

Also, the way string formatting interacts with logging is a total mess. People just pass f-strings to logging, which seems to be an intuitive way to do it. Except it limits your options if you want to collect structured logs and it doesn't allow you to use late evaluation based on log level.

[1] https://docs.python.org/3/library/string.html#format-example...

[2] https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#str.format

[3] https://docs.python.org/3/library/string.html#string.Templat...

[4] https://docs.python.org/3/reference/lexical_analysis.html#f-...

[5] https://docs.python.org/3/reference/lexical_analysis.html#t-...

[6] https://peps.python.org/pep-0020/

If it is the latter, then, perhaps, some p2p (torrent-like) content delivery system could help.

Can't believe, that this [0] solution to Challenge #5 actually worked, lol

Challenge #6 is "Transport 40 people using 60 elevator moves or less". Unfortunately docs don't make it clear what exactly counts as a "move".

[0] https://gist.github.com/vovanz/66e4396934ac656a8f8c32fcee43d...

In one of the buildings where I worked, "fancy Destination Dispatch kiosk" had a separate button with a wheelchair pictogram that would ensure that the elevator has enough space for a wheelchair.

I wonder how do elevators find out if the car is full or not.

I once been to an office building where it obviously didn't work properly.

I needed to get down from a pretty high (15+) floor to the bottom during the evening rush.

The elevator got full immediately but still stopped almost on every floor on the way down.

Each time an awkward scene ensued: a huge crowd of people outside elevator just standing and looking at the crowd in the elevator. Everyone has to just wait pointlessly.

Yeah, it doesn't make any sense to optimize wait time instead of total time from pressing the button to reaching destination.