Comments URL: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48027897

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# Comments: 411

No, it's not. You're absolutely right on that.

It's just someone you don't know who actually runs it due to no proper imprint promoting their business over someone else who you also don't know who actually runs it. So you send all your valuable business data to unknown guy A instead of unknown guy B. Oh, and also, in both cases you couldn't even sign a proper data subprocessing agreement with both guys. You can't sign it with guy A, who doesn't care, and you also can't sign it with guy B who says he's from Europe, does not even bother to provide an address to prove that, and obviously does not understand the GDPR.

Net souvereignty gain is zero by switching the middle man. In fact I'd say using such a "European" router service is actually worse than making business directly with, let's say, AWS, OpenAI or Anthropic where you'd at least know where you're buying from.

Bugs like these in the very thing which is supposed to convince me of buying do not exactly increase my trust :-)

Recently evaluated other testing tools/frameworks and if you're not already running the npm-dependencyhell-shitshow for your projects, most tools will pull in at least 100 dependencies.

I might be old fashioned but that's just too much for my taste. I love single-use tools with limited scope like e.g. esbuild or now this.

Will give this a try, soon.

Also, they're listing CoreWeave as inference provider in "EEA" area, but CoreWeave is of course also an US company. Even if they have their data center physically in the EU, it must be considered open access for the USA due to the CLOUD act.

https://trust.mistral.ai/subprocessors

If what you say is true, they have a communications problem and they need to fix that urgently. Right now, this is why they don't get my business. Others will have made the same decision based on their own subprocessor list.

Or did you mean, they're like, right now building it and plan to move there, but it's not up yet?

If I do not accept that level of independence but want more, I need to buy what's on OVH, Scaleway, Ionos etc. or host my own, but that usually means even smaller, worse models or a lot of investment.

Nevertheless, the "band" that Mistral occupies for economic success is very narrow. Basically just people who need independence "on paper" but not really. Because if I'm searching for actual independence, there's no way I could give them money at the moment for one of their products and it making sense, cause none of their plans are an actual independence-improvement over, let's say, Amazon Bedrock.

I really really want to support them, but it must make economic sense for my company, too, and it doesn't.

Mixed feelings about it being animated. The older I become, the more I have trouble relating to painted characters, no real clue why, so I couldn't even enjoy things I should have enjoyed like Arcane.

Also, of course, no Shepherd Book :-(

Anyway, I hope I'll like it. Really loved season 1.