And... What about accountability for hosting distributing spyware, malware loaded apps from Google Playstore and hundreds of copy cat, misleading apps?

Why can't they pose a question when the phone is setup?

- Yes, I want to sideload

- No I dont want

If the user says NO then to later enable it to allow sideload Yes, the user needs to factory reset phone. Done.

Sure.

Google Has Most of My Email Because It Has All of Yours

Only UI/UX issue is that most experienced users want to not adapt to change. It is like people always telling Windows 7 is the best. Don't keep reinventing.

Another one that irks me is every UI/UX dev assumes people have 2 x 4K monitors and menu items overflow.

Sure you get a device that you can flash/root/reinstall - but will it be authenticated/allow login by Google/Your company?

> Here our objective was not to break the crypto or recover the data, it was to remove any MDM application and remove all restrictions on the device.

Yes you can remove - resell device. But MDM is not designed to prevent reinstall/selling/whatever.

Beyond Corp principles:

A particular network connection must not determine which services a user can access. Access to services is granted based on what we know about a user and the device. All access to services must be authenticated, authorized and encrypted.

Are you able to authorise device with your company/google? We are listening...

Comments URL: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19025707

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  > in the UK, you can open an account in minutes on your mobile phone with any photo ID, even if you're not a UK resident.

1. There is no equivalent for Facebook and apple cannot build a one with privacy 2. There is none from Google-Search and apple has not built one 3. About WhatsApp? (iMessages - yes only within walled garden!) 4. Google groups-? 5. Browser? Safari? 6. Calendar -> Even creating a icloud account needs iDevice 7. Cant create more than 2 Apple account from same iphone!

  /etc/chromium-browser/policies/managed/test_policy.json

  {
       "DownloadDirectory": "/tmp",
       "DefaultNotificationsSetting": 2,
       "DefaultGeolocationSetting": 2,
       "AutoplayAllowed": false,
       "SigninAllowed": false,
       "RestrictSigninToPattern": "^$",
       "SyncDisabled": true,
       "CloudPrintProxyEnabled": false,
       "CloudPrintSubmitEnabled": false,
       "SpellCheckServiceEnabled": false,
       "TranslateEnabled": false,
       "SearchSuggestEnabled": false,
       "NetworkPredictionOptions": 2,
       "BrowserNetworkTimeQueriesEnabled": false,
       "MetricsReportingEnabled": false,
       "SafeBrowsingEnabled": false,
       "SafeBrowsingExtendedReportingOptInAllowed": false,
       "DefaultBrowserSettingEnabled": false,
       "SavingBrowserHistoryDisabled": true,
       "DefaultSearchProviderEnabled": true,
       "DefaultSearchProviderName": "DuckDuckGo",
       "DefaultSearchProviderSearchURL": "https://duckduckgo.com/?q={searchTerms}&kp=-1&kd=1&kl=uk-en",
       "DefaultSearchProviderIconURL": "https://duckduckgo.com/favicon.ico",
       "URLBlacklist": ["facebook.com", "https://www.facebook.com"],
       "CookiesAllowedForUrls": ["[*.]whatever.com", "[*.]whatevercdn.com", "[*.]whatever.io"],
       "CookiesBlockedForUrls": [
               "[*.]doubleclick.net",
               "[*.]wideopenpets.com"
       ],
       "BackgroundModeEnabled": false,
       "WPADQuickCheckEnabled": false,
       "VideoCaptureAllowed": false,
       "AudioCaptureAllowed": false,
       "EnableMediaRouter": false,
       "NativeMessagingUserLevelHosts": false,
       "DefaultWebBluetoothGuardSetting": 2,
       "ExtensionInstallForcelist": ["geddoclleiomckbhadiaipdggiiccfje;https://clients2.google.com/service/update2/crx","cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm;https://clients2.google.com/service/update2/crx","kljjfejkagofbgklifblndjelgabcmig;https://clients2.google.com/service/update2/crx"]
   }

P.S: I do understand your concern. But I see that increasingly google is building for its billions outside of EU/US where people share devices and look at security in a totally different way.

It is increasingly a bubble for the rich to super-elite not necessarily for the average citizen. http://time.com/money/4346766/mark-zuckerberg-houses/