One thing to consider is if there were no social media would these attempts to subvert democracy stop ?

There are always elements in news media, academia, industry etc who are pawns in hands of foreign powers with ulterior motives.

Social media gave a voice to people.

Sure, not everyone has a point worth paying attention to, nor are most participants on social media real - most likely bots.

But do we want only points of views from Billionaire network and media owners who have their own agenda ?

People should pay more attention to what affects their daily lives and not what hatred is shown to them to rile them up.

If the individuals in the society are discerning and capable then no media traditional or social can have power to manipulate us against each other.

Whatever tax and living + lifestyle expenses that USA economy was making from H1B's will be gone.

Good for the rest of the world.

There are many 'choices' of individuals that a political side can call as a delusion/mental illness while another political side staunchly protects.

They can keep their partner going for eternity then.

Big Tech is doing that to us.

When we make the algo happy we get treats - likes, shares, followers - dopamine hits.

If you spend your life chasing happiness were you ever really happy ?

If you spend your life chasing money were you ever really rich ?

I do agree with you on this.

But as a consumer that's not my concern.

I am at least a Windows user since three decades, I know my way around the OS and did extensive troubleshooting. What happens to a normal Windows user ?

I have developed habits and workflow on my machine to optimize my time. Now every time I get back to work I am hoping that it works coming out of hibernate.

Is that how a modern OS should be ?

I have a Windows 10 machine that has stopped getting updates. I am satisfied with that.

I consider that Windows 10 machine 'reliable' now that Microsoft isn't breaking things for me.

Windows OS is what keeps most users in Microsoft's ecosystem.

I am still on Windows as some software I need to use aren't on Linux.

I am waiting for the day that I can get rid of Windows completely.

When I do that what Microsoft product do you think I will still use ? Office ? Azure ? Copilot ? :)) Outlook ?

No MSFT product ever!

Will I ever recommended Microsoft's products to my clients - Never

Sure, Microsoft has a grip on Enterprise.

Let's see how long that lasts if Windows keeps going downhill.

Do they want to fix Microsoft Products ?

My laptop came with Windows 11. Windows update broke hibernate few weeks back. When laptop gets out of hibernate - Wifi works for a few minutes and then once in a while the Wifi Adapter isn't detected. I need to reboot to fix the issue, this has screwed up my workflow. Wasting a lot of time.

After troubleshooting a lot, I now only hope one day it gets fixed on it's own thanks to some new update.

If Microsoft has money to invest in AI models, they could sure fix Windows 11 which I assume is one of their core products.

I wish in a few years Microsoft realize that screwing over their Desktop users to chase Cloud and AI wasn't worth it. And by that time it's too late to get back the user base.

I would be really worried about the US economy then.

So FB gets a different container. Google accounts get a container each. When I need to log in with Google - use the Google account's container.

Work gets different ones - depending on nature of work.

That makes it easy to manage containers for me.

In theory that account's data tracking to an extent is limited. But with browser fingerprinting I doubt this whole set up is very useful once you start aggregating data from multiple providers.

To get a better idea on the topic that you commented on and views of members of HN

You can read comments on this post - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48932539

This puts American Businesses and American Developers at a massive disadvantage.

The rest of the world can choose the best model by value for the task on hand.

Americans would be stuck using only 2-3 big frontier labs and paying a huge premium for using American models.

I don't see why hundreds of thousands of American Businesses will agree to that only for the benefit of a few tech companies.

Americans order Chinese products from SHEIN and Aliexpress type websites.

So China did penetrate the US ecommerce market, but they are not taking on Amazon directly.

People are buying from the Chinese and reselling on Amazon, which has a good logistics network that Chinese companies can't possibly build in the USA.

> absolutely not Apple

You need to look up Oneplus to see how many people were using their devices till they announced exit from Western markets.

The Chinese Android phones are essentially replacement for a big chunk of Apple ecosystem.

If these cheap mobile devices didn't exist - Apple could possibly be selling many more devices.

> China cloned .... Meta fairly well

TikTok is giving Meta a run for their money in USA.

They had to be restricted via threat of regulation to offload stake in TikTok USA.

> Microsoft

They didn't compete with Microsoft directly as entering Western Enterprise market is hard for the Chinese. Even Google can't beat Microsoft there till now.

I think other helpful places like reddit, discord, web forums etc might be what hit SO 2014-15 onwards.

AI seems to have given it a blow of mercy to end the misery.

Trying to understand, what type of agents do you see selling bonds and raising money on this platform, and what will they do with it.

That's probably for when people 'raise money' and run away.

They can claim that their 'agent' bought the Lambo and gifted it to them.

I see the same on HN when a topic about H1 B visas is posted. Going by comments on such posts Immigration seems to be fine as long as it is affecting blue collar work. The pitchforks are out when it concerns one's own job. Then they talk about quality of programmers, outsourcing companies, the process of H1B not being fair etc.

Makes me think that it's insecurity about finance and status, but not limited to a certain economic class.

> Populist parties frame migration as an economic and cultural threat. They blame migrants for problems ranging from crime to unemployment. And while social democratic parties are campaigning on ideological platforms, many voters still prioritise material security. Voting patterns suggest that class remains central.

This framing of the issue suggests that the issue is not real, while it could be a simple matter of people being worried about their financial well being and safety.

Consider the Pakistani Grooming gangs in UK with estimates suggesting up to 250,000 potential victims nationwide over several decades.

Many of the victims were young working class. Their plight was ignored so as not to antagonize a community. Dismissive attitudes towards victims: Many of the victims were working-class, vulnerable, or living in state care. Authorities often stigmatized them as "troubled" or "consenting," systematically ignoring their cries for help and failing to implement a child-centered approach.

As per BBC - Institutional paralysis: Police forces and local authorities lacked adequate training and suffered from severe bureaucratic dysfunction. In some instances, agencies viewed the gangs’ ethnic minority status and cultural backgrounds as "no-go" zones, allowing criminal networks to operate hidden behind the shield of "cultural sensitivities"

So to ensure that you are not being 'against migrants' created a situation that was hell for a lot of women.

We don't know if European Working class in other countries are seeing similar issues that happened in UK but were brushed under by the police and the British Media.

Let's not paint the working class as naive and just against migrants as 'seek inclusion through the exclusion of others."

The working class was not against migrants all along. If something changed, we should try to find out what the real issue is.